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CNG Bi-Fuel F-350 vs. VW TDI vs. BMW 5-Series: Discover Which Wins The Fuel-Economy Title

NGT News -- Venchurs Vehicle Systems says one of its converted compressed natural gas (CNG) bi-fuel Ford F-350 pickup trucks was recently pitted against a Volkswagen Passat TDI and a BMW 5-Series on the History Channel's "Top Gear" program to determine which vehicle offered the best fuel economy.

The episode, which will re-air on Thurs., Sept. 13, at 11:00 p.m. Eastern, was dubbed "One Tank." The show's hosts were required to drive from Portland, Ore., to San Francisco without stopping for fuel.

Venchurs, which is keeping the results of the match-up close to its chest, commented only that the CNG bi-fuel truck "performed extremely well in the test, highlighting its long-range capabilities and the seamless transition from CNG to gasoline operation."

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LostToo Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,392 Points:975,315 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 12:08:49 AM Ignore LostToo Report Abuse I think this is overkill. I have never heard of anybody that is not in favor of CNG vehicles. The only thing I have heard negative about CNG is nobody seems to know how much it cost to retro fit a vehicle with a CHG kit.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,131 Points:1,356,655 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 12:05:56 AM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Funny languageman 1. Yep it's one or the other. Of course the truck is quantity of fuel not really efficiency you would think. Then they added 400 lbs to the trunk of the VW. to come closer to the BMW weight. Then you have to watch a video to see what happens. [Edited by: TIGERPAW46 at 9/7/2012 2:15:35 AM EST]
LanguageMan1 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,725 Points:1,662,680 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 12:00:31 AM Ignore LanguageMan1 Report Abuse Haven't checked the article, but I'm certain it'll be the VW or BMW.
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PetroScopper Champion Author Houston Posts:6,627 Points:1,550,950 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 11:54:33 PM Ignore PetroScopper Report Abuse Should be interesting to see who won... I bet they are going to tell us that it was the Ford F-350 pickup truck.
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BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,994 Points:1,240,760 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 11:33:01 PM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse I'll bet on the F-350.
afghaned Champion Author Hamilton Posts:11,819 Points:1,286,660 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 11:32:12 PM Ignore afghaned Report Abuse It would be nice if the consumer won for once.
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jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,857 Points:1,613,225 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 6, 2012 10:37:12 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse “what are they trying to prove?” It seems pretty clear that they are trying to prove that NG is the fuel of the future, at least the near future. It is still a fossil fuel but it is much cleaner than petroleum.
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