rjhenn

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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2012 11:17:44 AM
Honda, that power outage was in India.
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honda0105

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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2012 4:02:07 AM
funny how the projections always say "could help avert" or something along the lines. That would mean, that all production remains where the product was attained, not sold to the highest bidder.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2012 3:59:50 AM
keep in mind the cost in human lives (not just direct loss, but indirect by means of black lung and other health issues cutting miners' lives short) and coal isn't as great an energy source as it appears. But then, when have Americans of the past 40 or 50 years really cared what happens to others.
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LetemEatCake

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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 10:43:45 PM
Geez, do you really believe N5EXY that, " (In case of war Obama would) deprive America of the energy it needs to function and compete in the world."
Really? It would be the biggest Nuclear War you could ever imagine. The strength of the US is that we have many form of energy....and don't depend on just 1 or 2 sources.
Beside....with current technology, it would have to be either Canada or Mexico that would have to have the rockets to do so. Right now the only thing we don't like about the Canadian for is clogging up the lines at Costco. Scary!
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sparky808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 2:11:26 PM
Thank you for posting.
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jethro5000

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 11:48:12 AM
I heard this on the radio
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kyjlh

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 7:04:39 AM
good
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2012 4:05:43 AM
Export coal to other countries and let them worry about the consequences. But, it's jobs for Kentucky and that’s a good thing. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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shstew

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:54:50 PM
Good for them
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Bezalel

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:34:04 PM
Export 'dirty' coal. Keep refined product here.
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:15:47 PM
Just watch Obama try to kill this deal with his buddies at the EPA.
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jrschl

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:07:27 PM
Good for the economy. Plus more jobs to help clean up the pollution from India.
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:06:14 PM
That’s good for our balance of trade but bad from most other perspectives. It will probably be burned with lower standards for pollution control in India than in the US. Much Kentucky and West Virginia coal is mined by mountaintop removal / valley fill, which is extremely destructive. The mine owners and shippers will make a lot of money, the mine workers will make a little money, and the global environment will suffer.
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heartbroken2010

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:06:07 PM
good stuff.
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N5EXY

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:05:07 PM
If you still need a reason to defeat Obama then consider his administration’s intense effort to deprive America of the energy it needs to function and compete in the world. If a foreign nation had launched an attack on America to destroy its coal-fired plants, to shut down its coal mines, and to thwart its ability to drill for oil and natural gas, we would be at war with it.
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shores4now

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:03:41 PM
great
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 10:02:27 PM
A Win-Win for everybody!
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mstearno

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:57:34 PM
good for ky
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millerin

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:54:06 PM
hmm...
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brutherruther

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:49:13 PM
Ok
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southrob

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:46:40 PM
dhan for lower gas
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firefly09

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:45:12 PM
HMMMMMMMMMMMM.
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SavALot

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:43:05 PM
That's a lot of zeroes
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abcdMA

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:42:42 PM
high grade coal which could be part of our energy solution, instead, the administration puts restrictive regulations in place trying to kill coal in the US
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Prodaddy

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Houston
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:40:47 PM
Kentucky is full of high grade coal
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cokezero

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:39:43 PM
ok
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Mermaan

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Boston
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:35:05 PM
nice
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drz614

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:34:59 PM
now we are selling our coal, great. we can't burn it here but other countries can? how messed up is that?
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Tekkersmom57

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:34:18 PM
Very good post, clermont40miles!
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AKmailman

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:34:03 PM
there's nothing wrong with coal, creates more US jobs and who gives a rats a$$ what they do in the rest of the world
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Blue48

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:33:28 PM
GOOD NEWS FOR THEM!
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n3tbc

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:28:45 PM
Total carbon footprint never changes. We clean up and the rest of the world gets worse...
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itsjustme719

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:28:26 PM
Don't use coal, it's bad for the environment, but we can promote other countries to use it.
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uptherefiners

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:27:03 PM
I feel better that people in india won't be left in the dark
I really DON'T feel better that people in the USofA might be left in the dark
wade through the bullshit, and vote with your brains this time
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gmcgas

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:23:42 PM
just stupid. we could use it.
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grandamgt1

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:20:38 PM
Funny how we're trying to be "green" in this country by not wanting to use coal, but we're all for exporting this valuable resource.
Wouldn't it make more sense to use our own coal, and let India use windmills?
[Edited by: grandamgt1 at 8/17/2012 11:24:29 PM EST]
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mdskier

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:14:11 PM
So we spend $$ on clean energy & India burns our smelly old coal. Is this cleaning up the planet?
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Cableman66

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:13:46 PM
Jobs equal money, food and other such simple items. Those who opose sale of coal must have plenty $$$ so share with your neighbor. That's right this is Obama's plan. No jobs and take your money for others.
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mcmonsta

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:10:59 PM
and guess who profits from this Clean energy?
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serrog

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:10:46 PM
How green was our planet
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wayoung56

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:09:24 PM
Wonder why the EPA hasn't tried to squash this???
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John747

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:07:02 PM
The so-called "clean coal technology" can also be called "expensive technology." Poor people in countries like India need immediate access to "cheap, affordable technology."
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farn1958

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:05:13 PM
so we sell then what happens when we need it ? remember there was a time when we were energy self suficent
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jpgilmor

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:04:17 PM
Good news
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knot2swift

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:04:01 PM
Well great.
India is another idiot country that has no environmental standards. At over a billion of them, so what if a few million die a year. I see it as more air for me, more food and water for me.
We need to bring "Clean Coal Technology" to the world as well as here. We'll have a couple of hundred years worth of energy without dropping like flies.
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petrpuck

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:02:49 PM
we're in the money
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Marson

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 9:02:42 PM
Great for the Kentucky Coal miners and I too agree with I agree with clermont40miles!
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carpenter4u

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 8:59:53 PM
What is Obama going to do to try to stop this
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 8:59:17 PM
Good for KY, I agree with clermont40miles!
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bra0712

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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2012 8:57:55 PM
Cool
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