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Single District speed camera: 116,734 tickets worth $11.6 million

Washington Post -- If you lined them all up head to toe, they would stretch from the White House to south of Richmond.

They could fill every seat in FedEx Field and Verizon Center and still leave people out in the cold.

That’s how many people got a traffic ticket from a single speed camera on New York Avenue in 23 months.

Tickets issued: 116,734.

Fines levied: $11.6 million.

City sympathy for angry drivers: zero.

“We believe we have made an impact,” said Gwendolyn Crump, spokeswoman for the D.C. police. “There have been 16 fatalities in 2012, compared to 28 at this time last year, for a 43 percent reduction of traffic fatalities. There is great value in slowing drivers down not only for their own safety, but also for safety of all other traveling parties.”

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Submitted Oct 25, 2012 By: BurntOrange

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Chris46 Champion Author Dayton Posts:23,683 Points:2,083,290 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 4:07:50 PM Ignore Chris46 Report Abuse Another way to make money. Good luck on collecting those tickets!
SoutheastdannyB All-Star Author Grand Rapids Posts:590 Points:581,880 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2012 10:06:32 AM Ignore SoutheastdannyB Report Abuse big brother.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,074 Points:1,628,200 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Oct 27, 2012 3:15:24 AM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse how much did it cost? what's the roi? how many elected officials got dinged?
KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,182 Points:621,695 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 11:57:09 PM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse Not sure whether the 28 to 16 fatalities are just on New York Avenue? But anything to make New York Ave safer and speeds slower is OK with me. It's a terrible road.
Mark8601 All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:913 Points:380,865 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 5:00:06 PM Ignore Mark8601 Report Abuse I think those would be illegal. The red light cameras are in CA.
blupupher Champion Author Houston Posts:3,555 Points:749,020 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 8:07:33 AM Ignore blupupher Report Abuse Thats one busy camera.
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,360 Points:1,244,300 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 7:18:24 AM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse Woohoo, DC workers just got a raise...
nb52 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:7,785 Points:1,547,825 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 4:20:56 AM Ignore nb52 Report Abuse REVENUER'S!
yardslave Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,560 Points:597,780 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 4:07:56 AM Ignore yardslave Report Abuse Wow
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,047 Points:2,346,485 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:15:45 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Single District speed camera: 116,734 tickets worth $11.6 million, what a great location for a traffic camera. Think of all that money generated for the city, what a gold mine this camera is! If you speed, you pay the fine! Big Brother and Sneeky is watching! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII!
pulpwood Champion Author Mississippi Posts:7,379 Points:1,859,605 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 2:08:22 AM Ignore pulpwood Report Abuse throw the book at them
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,267 Points:1,742,680 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Oct 26, 2012 12:18:19 AM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse Interesting that no speed limits were given
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,825 Points:643,250 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 11:33:38 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Good grief!
danindenver Champion Author Denver Posts:5,494 Points:1,239,660 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:48:35 PM Ignore danindenver Report Abuse "... don't speed ..." Anyone who says that is living in fantasyland. You can't drive safely with your eyes constantly on the speedometer. Learned that when I was 18. I recently had a harrowing experience on a dark and busy highway with a state trooper in the mix. Do I watch my speed and cause road rage, or run over the children on the side of the road? Difficult question. Driving a bit faster than some arbitrary speed limit does not make me a bad person.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,993 Points:1,113,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:17:24 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse DiannaFan: The problem with red light cameras is that they can't take into account what was happening prior to the alleged violation. It may be safer to go through a red light than to have an accident. An officer could at least be questioned about that. You can't cross-examine a machine. And we also assume that the machine is working correctly. For $11+ million in fines you can hire a few more cops. No excuse DC. SPEED CAMERA not RED LIGHT CAMERAS... Do you think they load stamps in to the camera, so the camera can mail out the tickets??? Maybe the camera calls FedEx for a pickup of the tickets??? The camera has everyones address on file,right... [Edited by: us4usa at 10/26/2012 12:21:10 AM EST]
bart_reed Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,979 Points:786,605 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:16:37 PM Ignore bart_reed Report Abuse Nothing like driving safely.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,993 Points:1,113,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:09:49 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Lou08: Easy way to beat the speed cameras! Download software for TOMTOM GPS. When in range the alert sounds and Icon flashes RED. It's better than a ticket fine or stick in the eye....;) Did you teach your kids/grandkids how to beat the speed cameras??? Wrong, easy way to beat the speed cameras don't speed...
DiannaFan Sophomore Author Utah Posts:175 Points:207,210 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:08:41 PM Ignore DiannaFan Report Abuse The problem with red light cameras is that they can't take into account what was happening prior to the alleged violation. It may be safer to go through a red light than to have an accident. An officer could at least be questioned about that. You can't cross-examine a machine. And we also assume that the machine is working correctly. For $11+ million in fines you can hire a few more cops. No excuse DC.
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Kawibiker Champion Author Illinois Posts:1,175 Points:205,575 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 10:01:47 PM Ignore Kawibiker Report Abuse ok
vrossi46 Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,677 Points:805,895 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:59:53 PM Ignore vrossi46 Report Abuse slow em down
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g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,546 Points:934,645 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:56:23 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse Good for safety period!!!!!!.
Lou08 Champion Author California Posts:1,084 Points:252,410 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:55:58 PM Ignore Lou08 Report Abuse Easy way to beat the speed cameras! Download software for TOMTOM GPS. When in range the alert sounds and Icon flashes RED. It's better than a ticket fine or stick in the eye....;)
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,278 Points:2,072,625 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:55:45 PM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse I've heard that auto insurers invested heavily in cameras; the more tickets their policy-holders get, the higher the rates they can charge. Los Angeles (City) abolished the cameras last year. Although the County still maintains them at rail and busway crossings, and other cities (Beverly Hills among them) still use red-light cameras.
jtfftj Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:2,180 Points:1,249,135 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:53:24 PM Ignore jtfftj Report Abuse You know as well as I do that the concern for fatalities is not the primary motivation. That $11.6M certainly is.
N4PIP All-Star Author Miami Posts:910 Points:420,405 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:52:11 PM Ignore N4PIP Report Abuse Cameras in my area have been shut down. They're not accurate. One busted a mayor. Funny how they started to disappear after that.
Muskie78 Sophomore Author Ohio Posts:172 Points:39,500 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:51:35 PM Ignore Muskie78 Report Abuse Giod job robocop
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:51:00 PM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse In other jurisdictions, it's been shown that speed cameras have no effect on fatalities. In fact, in some places they've actually CAUSED accidents as drivers suddenly slam on the brakes when they see a camera. This just shows that the real reason is revenue.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,787 Points:645,560 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:50:53 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse Speed cameras and stoplight cameras should be abolished.
OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:49:06 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Cameras are a money grab for governments. When a cop stops you, it sinks in more profoundly than getting a ticket in the mail a month later. Some people have received tickets several days in a row from photo radar and didn't know they were penalized for a month so it did not slow them down that day like when the police stop you. Then you get states like Texas who encourage drivers to drive at 85 mph on certain highways and that is contradictory.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,071 Points:1,732,210 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:46:14 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse jackpot
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DesertP90X Sophomore Author Riverside Posts:205 Points:45,875 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:40:18 PM Ignore DesertP90X Report Abuse I'm noticing more and more people have the NASCAR syndrome. And the way they drive it is inconceivable that they are getting good gas mileage.
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us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,993 Points:1,113,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:37:28 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse "10,530 people were killed in speed-related crashes." so why speed???
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gumbyrex Champion Author Fresno Posts:3,306 Points:760,265 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:32:53 PM Ignore gumbyrex Report Abuse What a cash cow! Now if they can figure out how to ticket jaywlkers.
Gas4Gore Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,421 Points:423,875 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:30:54 PM Ignore Gas4Gore Report Abuse Another way for the mayor to fill his coffers.
fenster66 Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:3,355 Points:675,065 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:28:35 PM Ignore fenster66 Report Abuse speed thrills, but kills....
malfrog1 Champion Author South Bend Posts:2,206 Points:550,960 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:27:19 PM Ignore malfrog1 Report Abuse you are always being watched
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us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,993 Points:1,113,430 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:22:58 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse TimTim:If it really helps to reduce the fatalities, it is good thing...:) “There have been 16 fatalities in 2012, compared to 28 at this time last year, for a 43 percent reduction of traffic fatalities. There is great value in slowing drivers down not only for their own safety, but also for safety of all other traveling parties.” 12 less fatalities, about $1M per sounds high until its you...
mabrams184 Champion Author Lexington Posts:2,104 Points:534,765 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:19:17 PM Ignore mabrams184 Report Abuse Something is bad wrong if those numbers are correct. Either the camera is on short timer or that intersection is very poorly designed and managed. Either way, there has got to be a better way to handle the situation. We have to stop electing lazy and or corrupt politicians in the country.
PoohMcGoo Champion Author Alabama Posts:3,067 Points:801,185 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:14:30 PM Ignore PoohMcGoo Report Abuse And they'll go broke once people stop speeding, when they know they can't get away with it.
s6sputnik Champion Author Austin Posts:6,222 Points:1,308,880 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:10:28 PM Ignore s6sputnik Report Abuse Yuk!
TimTim All-Star Author Vancouver Posts:578 Points:1,446,700 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:10:24 PM Ignore TimTim Report Abuse If it really helps to reduce the fatalities, it is good thing...:)
drobbbb Champion Author Maryland Posts:3,480 Points:813,210 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:10:12 PM Ignore drobbbb Report Abuse outrageous
OOXXFF Champion Author Greensboro Posts:3,068 Points:1,080,380 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:09:55 PM Ignore OOXXFF Report Abuse Is their main goal safety or is it $11.6M?